Canadian Suppliers for Raw Feeders

check out this site, you’ll have to scroll down a bit.

NR/Bark Supplier


Pet Bills (as in legislation)

Don’t want to use this blog for this purpose but for those interested in heads up on this stuff.

California is proposing a mandatory spay/neuter law for pets.  Bill 1634 or some number like that.  Pros and cons to it.   I can see both sides to it.

Tuscon has an animal welfare group that is proposing a law that will affect the raw feeding crowd.  Link here.  This bill might be worth fighting for change in the wording….no diseased meat as opposed to no raw or diseased meat.   Just feed your dog as best you can…raw OR kibble.   (though for my bet, raw is better)

Brake-fast bowl

have to admit, never even thought of this solution to dogs that bolt their food.

Shows the creativity that God imbibed mankind with.

Check out the brake-fast bowl.

Other methods for dogs that bolt their food.

  1. If feeding raw, give pieces larger than their heads
  2. If feeding raw, feed it frozen.
  3. If feeding raw, hand feed.  Not generally recommended as it can make a gulper worse since the dog might think you’ll take his food away.
  4. If feeding kibble, smaller portions more frequently
  5. If feeding kibble, use their breakfast or dinner portion as training treats.
  6. If feeding kibble, place dogs’ meal in one of those puzzle games for dogs, the ones where they have to work at the toy to get the kibble to come out of it.

Chronic Wasting Disease in Deer (CWD)

So, this is a thing that hunter and raw feeders want to be aware of. It’s a disease called Chronic wasting disease. It affects mule deer, elk and other deer. Here’s a link to the Alberta page.

It is known to transfer to cats, not to wolves or humans. BUT one never knows when a disease will make a trans-species jump. Therefore when eating venison or Elk meat – avoid the brain, spinal column, and tail.

from a raw feeding list I’m on I learned this:

Infections are known in wild mule deer, elk, and white-tailed deer in a small area of the western US and in Wisconsin/Illinois, In addition, infections have been found in game farm cervids in USA (various states), Canada (Saskatchewan, Alberta), and Korea. Recently, isolated reports in wild deer in some of these regions have occurred.

CWD is in the spinal fluid and brain stem so as long as your not eating that then you should be ok.

There is no research that indicates CWD is transferrable to wolves.
Cats, yes. Dogs, no.

Where CWD has been an issue in the US, natural culling by wolves of ailing deer is believed to keep down the spread of the disease to other deer. When wolf populations decrease, the level of CWD appears to increase. Artifically culled herds lead almost invariably to decreased wolf populations, since wolves depend on stable deer populations. When the wolf population drops, the incidence of CWD rises. And then the F&W have to kill more deer, not less.

If you get a deer locally, you can feed it to your dogs without worrying about CWD—IF the local F&W guys allow you to keep it.

If you can feed it but you are worried about CWD transferring to your dog, don’t feed the brain, neck, spine or tail.

Feeding Liver or other organ meats

There are many dogs out there who don’t like to eat organ meats when initially offered to them.  So one needs to be creative in how to offer.

Liver is one of those organs which is actually just as good cooked as it is raw so first try cooking it!

If cooking it, or even lightly searing it doesn’t work, try the following:

  1. chop it into small pieces
  2. Mix it with something else such as veggies or ground meat.
  3. freeze it
  4. sprinkle it with parmesan cheese
  5. make a game with it, as in, you act like it’s the worlds’ best thing and then offer it to your dog.  (hopefully will be so eager to have it that gulps it down without thinking)
  6. hide it inside a roast, make a slit in a chicken leg
  7. if all else fails… let your dog go hungry until he eats it OR
  8. try some other type of animals organ meat.  Some hate poultry organs but will happily down beef, pork or other animal organs.

Raw feeding, what is it?

Raw feeding takes usually one of two main forms

BARF style or whole prey feeding.  Both advocate feeding RMBS (raw MEATY bones to dogs) one adds veggies/leftovers the other looks at feeding the whole animal as much as can be had.  Both advocate feeding 2-3% of your dogs ideal adult weight each day.   Neither group cares if you feed your dog once or twice or more per day.  Some folks will feed a huge meal one day, and skip a day, and then feed a small meal and so forth.  HUGE variety in how actually to provide meals to your dog.  Both groups agree that 10% of the diet needs to consist of organ meat (liver making up 50% of that amount).

BARF style takes the approach that dogs need more than meat and bones to survive well.  Their stance is that mushing up veggies provides added nutrients to a meat source that in today’s highly processed society are important to have.    This group will add supplements if they think the dog needs them.    This group is also okay with folks cooking meals for their dogs if it benefits their dog (just not cooking the bones).

The whole prey group will agree that veggies will not harm your dog, but say that there is NO need at all to add them, as long as your dog is getting all the different parts of an animal from a variety of meat sources.

Whole prey model: meat and bones ONLY.  no supplements, no veggies, no nothing other than prey animal to be given.  if possible serve with fur/feather/scales attached.

Both groups have their points of merit.   Veggies don’t hurt, so why not feed the dogs your leftovers after grinding them up a bit?  Leftovers won’t hurt, so why not add them?  Whole prey won’t hurt, so why not do that?  It makes it confusing for the novice raw feeder.  What do they do?  How do they make their decisions?

As the person who feeds the dog in your life you have to decide what you can live with.  Can you handle feeding your dog a whole rabbit?  Can you handle chopping a chicken into four quarters?  Are you able to give your dog some raw meat and just let them go at it?  Are you in a living situation where you can get meat from a whole variety of sources?  Cow or Pig heads anyone?   Or do you just want to go to the grocery store or butcher and purchase inexpensive meat and give it to your dog?  Are you okay with running a food processor to chop up those veggies that you aren’t eating with your supper?

You are the one who has to work it out for yourself.  People will gladly advise you … usually to the method they prefer, but they will help.  YOU have to make the decision as to what you can live with.

My choice is based on simple finances.   It is cheaper for me to feed a mix of leftovers (I have family members who frequently don’t eat all their meals), veggies, ground meat and RMB’s than it is for me to whole prey model.  It’s 2-3 hours of work individually bagging meals every 6 weeks or so.  I stick them in the freezer, all ready to go, means ANYONE can feed my dogs without it being a big issue for them.  All human grade food so I don’t have to worry about salmonella or other nasty bugs floating about the place.     That’s MY decision.  You need to make YOUR decision.